Bootstrapper/Chainer Question
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Ok, so I get the need for bootstrapper/chainers and I'm committed to using that approach. However, I also have a requirement
that the installation be fully silent so that system administrators don't have to click "yes" on every single machine in a large datacenter. What's a poor installer developer to do? Most bootstrapper/chainers I've seen that I can understand do not have a silent install option... Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? -- -- Eric Fesh Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer Verari Systems Software, Inc. 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 Birmingham, AL 35203 Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 Fax +1-205-397-3142 [hidden email] http://www.verarisoft.com/ The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the sender and delete the communication and all copies of it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
Re: Bootstrapper/Chainer Question
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Bootstrappers normally don't create UI of their own. There should be an
option you can pass to the bootstrapper to pass arguments to msiexec. The Office 2000 bootstrapper is described at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/setup/b ootstrapping.asp. Hope this helps. -- Mike Dimmick -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Fesh Sent: 20 November 2006 16:04 To: WiX-users Subject: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper/Chainer Question Ok, so I get the need for bootstrapper/chainers and I'm committed to using that approach. However, I also have a requirement that the installation be fully silent so that system administrators don't have to click "yes" on every single machine in a large datacenter. What's a poor installer developer to do? Most bootstrapper/chainers I've seen that I can understand do not have a silent install option... Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
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Not really, I'm afraid, although I do appreciate the effort. My problem is that I've got multiple dependencies that I need to
make sure are installed, and I'm pretty much stuck doing it the "dumb" way by kicking the installers off as custom actions during the InstallUISequence. I know that's the wrong thing to do and I want to do it the right way, but I don't seem to have any alternatives to work with. I was looking into the Visual Studio 2005 generic bootstrapper, but it does not have a command-line option for silencing the dialog that it pops up which asks if you want to install the dependencies. Neither does an open-source alternative... And I don't have time to grok the .NET sample setup.exe code and write a custom bootstrapper based on that. *sigh* I was really hoping someone knew of an alternative that would allow silent installation (or would at least not ask the user for input)... -- Eric Fesh Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer Verari Systems Software, Inc. 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 Birmingham, AL 35203 Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 Fax +1-205-397-3142 [hidden email] http://www.verarisoft.com/ The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the sender and delete the communication and all copies of it. Mike Dimmick wrote: > Bootstrappers normally don't create UI of their own. There should be an > option you can pass to the bootstrapper to pass arguments to msiexec. > > The Office 2000 bootstrapper is described at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/setup/b > ootstrapping.asp. > > Hope this helps. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
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I know it's old school but you could just chain all the MSI's together
in a batch file launching each with "msiexec". Neil -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Fesh Sent: 20 November 2006 21:37 To: Mike Dimmick Cc: 'WiX-users' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper/Chainer Question Not really, I'm afraid, although I do appreciate the effort. My problem is that I've got multiple dependencies that I need to make sure are installed, and I'm pretty much stuck doing it the "dumb" way by kicking the installers off as custom actions during the InstallUISequence. I know that's the wrong thing to do and I want to do it the right way, but I don't seem to have any alternatives to work with. I was looking into the Visual Studio 2005 generic bootstrapper, but it does not have a command-line option for silencing the dialog that it pops up which asks if you want to install the dependencies. Neither does an open-source alternative... And I don't have time to grok the .NET sample setup.exe code and write a custom bootstrapper based on that. *sigh* I was really hoping someone knew of an alternative that would allow silent installation (or would at least not ask the user for input)... -- Eric Fesh Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer Verari Systems Software, Inc. 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 Birmingham, AL 35203 Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 Fax +1-205-397-3142 [hidden email] http://www.verarisoft.com/ The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the sender and delete the communication and all copies of it. Mike Dimmick wrote: > Bootstrappers normally don't create UI of their own. There should be an > option you can pass to the bootstrapper to pass arguments to msiexec. > > The Office 2000 bootstrapper is described at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/set up/b > ootstrapping.asp. > > Hope this helps. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDE V _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
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There is the Microsoft Component Installer SDK:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2A5E4EBC-651C-40AA- 9525-1810AF47C317&displaylang=en It handles: * Microsoft Windows Installer 2.0 * Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1 * Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 * Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 and language packs * Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 * Microsoft Visual J# runtime and language packs * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 (x86) and language packs * Microsoft Visual J# 2.0 runtime and language packs * Microsoft DirectX 9.0c (December 2005 ) * Microsoft Report Viewer 2005 redistributable and language packs * Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for the Microsoft Office System redistributable and language packs * Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition redistributable Microsoft Component Installer does not get enough press! It would be handy if it was open sourced... but that could be a lot to hope for :) Combine it with ZipToSecureExe: http://www.zip-compression.com/zip-self-extractor.asp And you have a reasonably nice bootstrapper (and quiet if desired). There's also: http://www.codeproject.com/managedcpp/DotNetSetup.asp Never used it... but looks like a starting point. And also this one (again never used): http://www.devage.com/dotNetInstaller/dotNetInstaller.html Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Fesh Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:37 PM To: Mike Dimmick Cc: 'WiX-users' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper/Chainer Question Not really, I'm afraid, although I do appreciate the effort. My problem is that I've got multiple dependencies that I need to make sure are installed, and I'm pretty much stuck doing it the "dumb" way by kicking the installers off as custom actions during the InstallUISequence. I know that's the wrong thing to do and I want to do it the right way, but I don't seem to have any alternatives to work with. I was looking into the Visual Studio 2005 generic bootstrapper, but it does not have a command-line option for silencing the dialog that it pops up which asks if you want to install the dependencies. Neither does an open-source alternative... And I don't have time to grok the .NET sample setup.exe code and write a custom bootstrapper based on that. *sigh* I was really hoping someone knew of an alternative that would allow silent installation (or would at least not ask the user for input)... -- Eric Fesh Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer Verari Systems Software, Inc. 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 Birmingham, AL 35203 Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 Fax +1-205-397-3142 [hidden email] http://www.verarisoft.com/ The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the sender and delete the communication and all copies of it. Mike Dimmick wrote: > Bootstrappers normally don't create UI of their own. There should be an > option you can pass to the bootstrapper to pass arguments to msiexec. > > The Office 2000 bootstrapper is described at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/setup/b > ootstrapping.asp. > > Hope this helps. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
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The Microsoft Component Installer doesn't allow you to add a custom package to that list though, right? One of my dependencies
is the Postgresql DBMS... Also, I've looked at DotNetSetup before and it wasn't able to do silent installs either. At least not last time I checked... The author had it on his to-do list. -- Eric Fesh Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer Verari Systems Software, Inc. 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 Birmingham, AL 35203 Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 Fax +1-205-397-3142 [hidden email] http://www.verarisoft.com/ The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the sender and delete the communication and all copies of it. Rob MacFadyen wrote: > There is the Microsoft Component Installer SDK: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2A5E4EBC-651C-40AA- > 9525-1810AF47C317&displaylang=en > > It handles: > * Microsoft Windows Installer 2.0 > * Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1 > * Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 > * Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 and language packs > * Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 > * Microsoft Visual J# runtime and language packs > * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 (x86) and language packs > * Microsoft Visual J# 2.0 runtime and language packs > * Microsoft DirectX 9.0c (December 2005 ) > * Microsoft Report Viewer 2005 redistributable and language packs > * Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for the Microsoft Office System > redistributable and language packs > * Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition redistributable > > Microsoft Component Installer does not get enough press! It would be handy > if it was open sourced... but that could be a lot to hope for :) > > Combine it with ZipToSecureExe: > http://www.zip-compression.com/zip-self-extractor.asp > > And you have a reasonably nice bootstrapper (and quiet if desired). > > > There's also: > http://www.codeproject.com/managedcpp/DotNetSetup.asp > > Never used it... but looks like a starting point. > > And also this one (again never used): > http://www.devage.com/dotNetInstaller/dotNetInstaller.html > > Regards, > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Fesh > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:37 PM > To: Mike Dimmick > Cc: 'WiX-users' > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper/Chainer Question > > Not really, I'm afraid, although I do appreciate the effort. My problem is > that I've got multiple dependencies that I need to make sure are installed, > and I'm pretty much stuck doing it the "dumb" way by kicking the installers > off as custom actions during the InstallUISequence. I know that's the wrong > thing to do and I want to do it the right way, but I don't seem to have any > alternatives to work with. > > I was looking into the Visual Studio 2005 generic bootstrapper, but it does > not have a command-line option for silencing the dialog that it pops up > which asks if you want to install the dependencies. Neither does an > open-source alternative... And I don't have time to grok the .NET sample > setup.exe code and write a custom bootstrapper based on that. *sigh* I was > really hoping someone knew of an alternative that would allow silent > installation (or would at least not ask the user for input)... > > -- > > Eric Fesh > Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer > Verari Systems Software, Inc. > 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 > Birmingham, AL 35203 > Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 > Fax +1-205-397-3142 > [hidden email] > http://www.verarisoft.com/ > > The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is > intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of > this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or > any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named > recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the > sender > and delete the communication and all copies of it. > > > Mike Dimmick wrote: >> Bootstrappers normally don't create UI of their own. There should be an >> option you can pass to the bootstrapper to pass arguments to msiexec. >> >> The Office 2000 bootstrapper is described at >> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/setup/b >> ootstrapping.asp. >> >> Hope this helps. >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
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Eric,
Well... it does allow for "chaining" into another bootstrapper. So... if you have a postgress bootstrapper (that also chains) you'd be there. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Eric Fesh [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:12 PM To: Rob MacFadyen Cc: 'WiX-users' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper/Chainer Question The Microsoft Component Installer doesn't allow you to add a custom package to that list though, right? One of my dependencies is the Postgresql DBMS... Also, I've looked at DotNetSetup before and it wasn't able to do silent installs either. At least not last time I checked... The author had it on his to-do list. -- Eric Fesh Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer Verari Systems Software, Inc. 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 Birmingham, AL 35203 Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 Fax +1-205-397-3142 [hidden email] http://www.verarisoft.com/ The information contained in this communication may be confidential and is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you are not a named recipient or received this communication by mistake, please notify the sender and delete the communication and all copies of it. Rob MacFadyen wrote: > There is the Microsoft Component Installer SDK: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2A5E4EBC-651C > -40AA- > 9525-1810AF47C317&displaylang=en > > It handles: > * Microsoft Windows Installer 2.0 > * Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1 > * Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8 > * Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 and language packs > * Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 > * Microsoft Visual J# runtime and language packs > * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 (x86) and language packs > * Microsoft Visual J# 2.0 runtime and language packs > * Microsoft DirectX 9.0c (December 2005 ) > * Microsoft Report Viewer 2005 redistributable and language packs > * Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for the Microsoft Office System > redistributable and language packs > * Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition redistributable > > Microsoft Component Installer does not get enough press! It would be > handy if it was open sourced... but that could be a lot to hope for > :) > > Combine it with ZipToSecureExe: > http://www.zip-compression.com/zip-self-extractor.asp > > And you have a reasonably nice bootstrapper (and quiet if desired). > > > There's also: > http://www.codeproject.com/managedcpp/DotNetSetup.asp > > Never used it... but looks like a starting point. > > And also this one (again never used): > http://www.devage.com/dotNetInstaller/dotNetInstaller.html > > Regards, > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric > Fesh > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:37 PM > To: Mike Dimmick > Cc: 'WiX-users' > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper/Chainer Question > > Not really, I'm afraid, although I do appreciate the effort. My > problem is that I've got multiple dependencies that I need to make > sure are installed, and I'm pretty much stuck doing it the "dumb" way > by kicking the installers off as custom actions during the > InstallUISequence. I know that's the wrong thing to do and I want to > do it the right way, but I don't seem to have any alternatives to work > > I was looking into the Visual Studio 2005 generic bootstrapper, but it > does not have a command-line option for silencing the dialog that it > pops up which asks if you want to install the dependencies. Neither > does an open-source alternative... And I don't have time to grok the > .NET sample setup.exe code and write a custom bootstrapper based on > that. *sigh* I was really hoping someone knew of an alternative that > would allow silent installation (or would at least not ask the user for input)... > > -- > > Eric Fesh > Customer Support Engineer/Software Test Engineer Verari Systems > Software, Inc. > 110 12th Street North, Suite D103 > Birmingham, AL 35203 > Phone +1-205-397-3141 ext. 3149 > Fax +1-205-397-3142 > [hidden email] > http://www.verarisoft.com/ > > The information contained in this communication may be confidential > and is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If > the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient(s), you > are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying > of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. > If you are not a named recipient or received this communication by > mistake, please notify the sender and delete the communication and all > copies of it. > > > Mike Dimmick wrote: >> Bootstrappers normally don't create UI of their own. There should be >> an option you can pass to the bootstrapper to pass arguments to msiexec. >> >> The Office 2000 bootstrapper is described at >> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/msi/s > etup/b >> ootstrapping.asp. >> >> Hope this helps. >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join > SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn > cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEV > DEV _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join > SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn > cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEV > DEV _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
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Eric Fesh wrote:
> Ok, so I get the need for bootstrapper/chainers and I'm > committed to using that approach. However, I also have a requirement > that the installation be fully silent so that system > administrators don't have to click "yes" on every single > machine in a large > datacenter. What's a poor installer developer to do? Most > bootstrapper/chainers I've seen that I can understand do not have a > silent install option... > Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? We have a 'multisetup.exe' that reads data (command lines basically) from a kind of queue in a well-known registry location. Installers with dependencies are supposed to add commands to install the dependent packages to the queue. At that point, some 'silencing' command line switch can be added (if needed and if available for that particular package). There is also the nice side effect that this scheme allows chained uninstalls and full or user-guided partial rollbacks as well. I understand, however, that it took a while to implement (this was before I started to work here...) Andre' ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users |
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